Talk:Clown Hair/@comment-30914026-20170516031318/@comment-27625479-20170523021346

@Keira940

Ok, so again, I didn't target your user, or name you individually at any point. Mine was a general topic follow-on comment I said there was a "group" of people tag trolling trying to hike up values, and there still are quite a few taking advantage. Perhaps if there have been some muggins jumping on the bandwagon and assuming my comment was about you, an individual, you could possibly ask the person who did name you to delete their comment above, and I can delete mine to avoid any confusion.

The "surge" of people making carnival items out to be more rare than they are has nothing to do with a sudden increase in popularity/demand, that's not what I'm saying, that is just normal increase in value that you'd see every day in the game when older items/colours etc suddenly become more popular or in demand. If you or anyone else are collecting, or simply wish to overtrade because you can, or just want to, that's entirely your business, I don't see an issue with that, aside from perhaps people assuming a forced new rarity for a particular item based on one trade, but anyway that isn't what I was referring to c:

What I am saying is that a lot of the newly Rare old Carnival items, have become the newest target for troll traders (or tag trading, whatever ppl want to call it). As far as proof, it's common knowledge to a lot of people who've either been targeted themselves, or had buddies ripped off by unscrupulous individuals. It goes something like this:

Player A says:  "My list for a pink Star Hat" (for example). Their list has an enormous amount of high end valuable items on it.

Straight away, player C and everyone else start scrabbling trying to find someone else with a pink Star Hat to get this fabulous trade from Player A for themselves.

Then Player B appears somewhere nearby (Player A's buddy or backup), "Pink Star Hat on trade". So, players C to Z start madly trying to trade for this Star Hat, overtrading massively.

Someone, Player C, eventually gets the item from Player B, with a massive overtrade, finds player A, if they're lucky, and tells them "Hey, I have a pink star hat". Player A magically has changed their mind about trading their list of five spikes and Tiki (or whatever) and poor player C is now stuck with a pink Star Hat, that they traded six good longs for, and player A & B are presumably laughing their socks off somewhere - no doubt you'll see them again in another server, trying the tag team or troll scam all over again.

That's what I am referring to when I say there are people trying to make out some newly Rare-tagged Carnival items are worth more than they actually are - I'm not talking about naturally increasing values due to poplularity/demand, or someone who is genuinely willing to overtrade for an item - done that myself, purely because I got bored off my socks trying to find and trade for a particular item sometimes, lol. More experienced players generally see through above scam, but many many more don't. Bottom line for inexperienced players, if an offer is too good to be true, just be cautious - that was pretty much my point, not for people to go on a witch hunt for anyone with genuine offers.